Jul. 13th, 2008 | 02:51 am
|On Monk Footwork, NPC Fellow LVL70 and Faith Baghnackhs|
|So I have been playing less and less recently, and all the new updates and changes haven't made things any better.|
Still, I get a lot of questions about various things so it's time to make an update. Specifically this entry will cover:
For good measures I am including a video of all these things, showing skillchains with NPC, fast continuous punching with F.Bagh instead of footwork, and the average range of damages of hits and WSs under the new JA, with and without dune boots.
So finally Monk got an update, which gave us a new job ability, Footwork. The bad news is I hate it. The good news is that at least it didn't make Monk worse, and could be kinda useful, situationally.
I usually try to make the best out of situational skills like these and find one cool application where they are useful (for example that's why I showed how to solo the 6 scorpions BCNM with mnk/dnc etc)...
But for some reason I really dislike this ability so much that I didn't really get around trying to make it useful yet.
It just makes you attack so... slowly, it's painful. It feels like wielding a scythe and not like playing MNK.
That's one of the reasons why I added Faith Baghnackhs in the video and in this entry, to show the difference between how monk should feel like, as an unstoppable continuous punching machine, and how annoying footwork is to use, with an 8 second pause between each single attack...
So let me start off with the video and then go into the math and details of footwork and the possible advantages you can get for taking all the fun out of monk. Here's the video:
That can be useful in case say you are doing an event with an alliance and want to feed less TP to an hNM and you want most of your damage to come from WS.
Against EP monsters you would still always use Asuran fists, you do 1300 damage without footwork with asuran, while Dragon Kick will still only do ~900 even with Footwork and dune boots on. With 300TP you can get DK to reach ~1500+ (DK wTP is 2x at 100 and 3.5x at 300, see video too) but that's still a waste and less reliable.
Occasionally you can get a nice double attack on DK to make it shoot up to 1400-1700 even at 100TP but it's just based on luck and more for screenshot purposes because on EP you would still be better off with asuran at 100 every time.
Another use could be to turn it on together with hundredfists just to get the attack boost without the annoyance of the slow attacks or kicks-only (note, I tried this and it seems the attack boost is canceled during hundredfists, so no advantage in using it now).
That's pretty much all there is to say on footwork.
NPC Fellow, the strongest item in the game.
The fellow NPC just got a few updates too. I would say that is the strongest item in the game (as the two items that can call it, signal pearl and tactics pearl to call it up to 3 times in the same fight or 5 times in a day) if you ever solo anything.
Recently the NPC was allowed to cap at lvl 70 instead of 65, that is a big boost to his accuracy, TP gain, chance to enfeeble etc. In terms of spells there's not a lot new except one more level of shell, but already the spells it has are a great advantage, haste, protect4, shell4, cure5s, dia2, -na spells, enfeebles, etc.
Another great change was that your NPC can now enter a few more areas like the past, and can now move across zones with you and even log off and log back on with you.
The NPC was one of the few new things that actually still caught my interest for a bit and gave me something to do on my own time (especially with the new logoff change I could just kill a few monsters at a time to give it xp, then log off and continue another time).
Getting it to level 70 took a bit longer than before because it needs a bit harder monsters with a lot more HP to get maximal amounts of XP, essentially monsters where I would get XP chainst too at 75.
Plus there is a new point system to improve your NPC and let it stay longer (I think each extension is an extra 10min, I already upgraded it twice)
I also tried to switch weapon from GKT(usefulforGekko->Darkness) to Staff for my NPC, since now you can turn off AoE WSs and I thought it would be nice to give it Spirit Taker... I wasn't very impressed, it uses it too rarely and is too low damage to even restore sufficient MP... so I think I will switch back to GKT for those 500 damage Gekkos I can turn into Darkness skillchains.
As a final topic, let me say what I didn't like too much about the updates:
Campaign items: It became more of a chore to try to keep upgrading medals in campaign and preventing them from expiring. When I saw the new items for the highest ranks are essentially more useless ugly items (more cobra set generally inferior stats to anything else) it felt like a huge waste of time. I bought one item and demoted myself
I mean I guess it can still be fun to do a campaign every now and then, but it should have some meaningful reward aside from just useless xp.
And the rest of the new items? I don't know, it seems like just more of the same stats rearranged around. The craften herald gaiters might be affordable some day, but I mean they are basically the same exact item, just obtained differently...
And the zNMs seem like a good idea but they should make some soloable, although I guess it is something to keep LSs busy with too so it's not all that bad. I didn't see any item too exciting for monk in all of them. The kick boots all seem pretty uninteresting, the crafted ones are too easy to get and the r/ex one seems to do the same exact thing.
There are some rings that increase resist to various diseases, but that stuff seriously never really works in practice, it's like it chances your chance to get enfeebled by 0.001%...
And there are decent items like a headgear with atk+8 and acc+8, but would you ever wear it over ohat or walhara? Most likely not, the 8atk is just very minor and if you are fighting something hard you would most likely want the higher acc of ohat and its evasion, dodging a 400dmg hit is a lot more useful than punching for 2 more damage because you can't punch while you're dead.
Even the storage furniture change seemed unnecessary, you still pretty much end up just using like 10 bahuts to cap your storage even on mules and that's more cost/space efficient than anything else...
You get the general idea, I wasn't all that positively impressed by anything in these last updates...
Apr. 16th, 2008 | 01:17 pm
|Things you (probably) didn't know about Guard, a great and often underestimated skill for Monks|
| This entry will be about guarding. I will make the following points (also supported by video and screenshots): |
Guarding makes up for the inability to parry with H2H equipped and used to be a monk-only skill. PUP can also use it now, but between their B- rating and equipment, they end up about 60 points less (that's as much skill difference as that between a level 75 and a level 58). Guard is very hard to skillup because it doesn't activate through shadows like parrying can. Also while parrying is great because it can save shadows, it activates a lot less even for jobs that can use it and have high parrying like PLD or NIN. I haven't seen parrying activating 4-5 times in a row for example (compare to the back to back guards in my video here).
The fact that guard is so hard to skillup however can also be a good thing, it's one of the few things that might show the difference between someone that just occasionally plays as monk and someone that thinks of it as their primary job. Also, when everything else is so easy to cap (even xp/merits), it's good to have still a nice potential skillup reward from doing random activities.
NOTE: For tips/strategies related to getting guard skillups, especially at lower levels (guard from 1 to 220 or so), refer to my old entry on guard skillups from 2+ years ago, and for other entries on various monk-related topics, refer to my INDEX.
Video: All about Guard:
Let's start with the video I made on guard, and explain in more details after that (you can go back to specific sections of the video to see examples of each point):
Guard damage reduction
Guard is a great defensive skill, it reduces damage taken by subtracting one from enemy's pDIF. That means it turns criticals into non-criticals, and can greatly reduce damage from normal hits. pDIF ranges from 0 to ~2.46 and is capped at those values so the % damage decrease from subtracting 1 varies.
However, guard seems to have a higher, non-zero, lower bound, so if you are already getting hit for just ~15 for example, your guarded damage will also be just 15 (no change), and not 0 (you can see this in the video with 7dmg after phalanx). I don't think that's ever mentioned in discussions about guard and should be tested more to figure out the exact lower bound effect.
On average the damage reduction tends to be about 75% (for example from 80 normal damage to 20 guarded damage, or from 200 to 50). Where does the number -1 pDIF come from? I am not really sure to be honest, it's never linked to any reference or test. However it at least matches its effect on critical hits damage (which is probably where it came from, since critical hits add +1 to pDIF, and that's well tested and easy to verify), so it's probably a good assumption, however as I said it doesn't explain well situations where normal hits and guard hits are capped at the same non-zero lower value. One possibility since I observed this mostly on chigoes is that it's not something about guard but something about chigoes, for example if they have an extra +15 damage to their hits even when their pDIF is 0.
Why is Guard underestimated?
A lot of people often assume guard is not too useful because they have it severely underskilled, so they rarely ever see it activate. It's also extremely difficult and slow to skillup compared to much easier ones like parrying.
Many people playing monk also tend to think all they need to wear is ATK+ so they don't think of wearing AGI+ to increase their chances of guard.
As with many things in this game, there are threshold effects for activation (look at DEX and critical hits for example). At 75 you can stack up on a LOT of AGI+ gear and a lot of guard+ gear (a lot more than you could for example in level capped areas or while playing other jobs like PUP). Generally you wouldn't want to do that in normal situations (usually you want more well-rounded gear), but if you want to test and see how good guard can be, you have to gear up accordingly.
Guard activation is very dependent on your enemy's stats and your AGI. Even with high guard you should load up on AGI and should expect reduced guard against monsters with high melee stats (especially high-DEX monsters).
But the most important reason why guard is underestimated is that even in the few situations where people have it leveled up and actually try to test it, they measure it incorrectly. You can't just count guard animations while you are meleeing because even attack animations will override/cancel guard animations (count blood animations vs hits taken instead, or you will always undercount %guard).
Why is guard great?
For one thing, if it activates while getting hit by an enemy TP move or WS, it nullifies it (just like third-eye from sam). How can you tell? generally it's difficult to tell It gives a deceiving/vague message unfortunately (as most things with monk, see kick attacks for example), basically the same message as if you dodged it. Fortunately however the guard skillups while being hit by a WS are a dead giveaway:
You can also notice that you will 'evade' WS a lot more often if you are in a position to guard (engaged and facing a monster) than you would otherwise (whereas evasion should work equally even while turned away or not engaged):
And of course 'evading'/guarding enemy's TP moves can be VERY useful:
The best way to measure guard rates:
Unfortunately there is no special chat log message for guard activation (unlike parrying), so you can't measure it straightforwardly in a parser. On top of that, you can't rely on counting the guard animations either. If your guard happens while you are in the middle of any other animation, including your attack round animation, the guard animation will be skipped (you can see some examples of this in the video I made here).
The only completely reliable way to measure it is by looking at the purple 'blood-splatter' animation as you get hit. Normal hits have it, guarded normal hits don't have it. (note that you still need to look at the log because critical guarded hits still have it, but their damage will be a normal value, or you will again underestimate your guard count). What about parsing? Well it can be possible in some situations to get at least a partially accurate figure, if you fight the same monsters with fairly consistent stats and look at damage during guard animation, and then count hits taken with that damage. That of course works well only when normal fluctuations of pDIF are still above that value. For example for many T monsters that hit you for ~80 you will guard for about 17-18 each time.
A note on Campaign and guard:
Campaign is one place where you can achieve high guard activation, and you probably want to. Since it has various xp caps for activities like just doing damage, you want to do things like cure HP and take damage as well in oder to get good points and xp. MNK/DNC is great for that, and guard helps solo any campaign monster well (it's actually harder when other low level \players start meleeing the monster you were soloing, giving it tons of TP while adding almost no damage, even while there are plenty of other unclaimed monsters).
You can see how often and by how much I reduce damage with guard during campaign:
Here are some examples of how much I get as MNK/DNC in campaign (with low level medals):
Mar. 27th, 2008 | 09:53 am
|Soloing everything in Sea + HP fun + Advice to Monks for NM hunting (Mee Deggi etc.)|
In previous entries I showed how monk can solo very high and very fast xp on VT imps (level 80-81), and how new job combinations like MNK/DNC can let me solo BCNMs like the 6 scorpion Operation Desert Storm or get solo xp/merits even more smoothly. But that doesn't mean all you can kill is imps or that older subjobs can't still be great or even better in some situations.
Anyways, back on topic. Basically as monk you can solo everything in Sea (except NMs like UFOs/Youvra, which you can still duo however as mnk/nin with a RDM). For example here is a few kills like the blue VT shark phuabo (as mnk/dnc), the shapeshifting VT aw'ghrah (usually as mnk/nin), the VT pot-shaped aw'zdei (also usually as mnk/nin), aerns (although more of a pain and no reason to ever fight the harder ones):
Flawless VT Euvhi Solo as mnk/nin:
One of the most useful but hardest monster to solo for monk is the flower-type Aw-Euvhi.
It can be hard because it attacks very fast (with double attacks etc) and can hit for 200~300 damage with just normal non-critical attacks, plus it has a lot of TP moves, some of them very powerful.
It is useful because it drops pop item for the Jailer of Faith NM and because it drops organs for the sanative earring, the highest hHP+ earring in the game (not all that essential but nice to have).
Below is a video showing how to solo VT flower monsters without getting hit at all (which requires strategy, timing and gear swaps to get the right mix of counter, evasion, haste and job abilities).
I think other people showed how to solo this before, but it was never too smooth of a fight, and people used too much unnecessary support or preparation (like trying to fully boost chiblast to take the monster down to 75% from the start). Instead I wanted to show how easy it can be just straight-tanking and using monk's other great stats and JAs, and how you could chain even 3-4 of them back to back without the need for all that boring boosting. I picked a slightly harder to reach camp (around J-12) to get 4 flowers next to each other, but as monk you can solo all the VT monsters in the area (like the zdei pots) and any VT spider that might accidentally aggro on the way.
I show 3 fights without any extra buffs (just food, not even signet to keep tp while healing etc) to show how monk can solo even the VT ones without getting hit even once, and demonstrate how you can get some nice chain2+ from just the flowers on both sides (reducing unnecessary wait for repops), and to give yet another example of how shiva's claws can be very effective even on VT enemies like this (in the third fight).
Here is the video:
Tips and Suggestions to new Monks (and everyone else) for camping NMs:
I thought I should post on this topic because some people can get very frustrated by the extremely low drop rates and competition setup in this game.
And what's even worse, some starting monks get talked into doing things like essentially abandoning normal fun play and leveling because they are told it is somehow disgraceful to level a certain job past a given level without some specific rare or expensive gear drops...
Of course some gear has very nice stats, but nothing that will have such an impact that it could really justify not having fun for long periods of time. In fact people with actual parsers or trying to do the same things before or after obtaining one of these items will generally end up disappointed by the smaller actual impact compared to the inflated expectations they had built up.
What I would recommend to people is to try to shift a bit that attitude and try instead to do that as an extra bonus activity, for example whenever possible try to simultaneously farm for gil, get decent solo XP, BCNM seals and maybe even level up your NPC fellow in the same area where the NM pops. so that you still have fun and get something accomplished whether you get the drop or claim or not. And if you can't ever seem to get the drop, by then you probably have plenty of seals to try and get the equivalent BCNM drop with a couple of friends, or enough gil to just buy it.
As an example, two useful pieces for monk are o.kotes and fuma boots. They are in no way required but they are a very nice boost at the level when you can first wear them (and for capped areas activities if you are already 75).
They made both items R/EX so they are not targeted by gilsellers and hopefully now anybody trying to use bots etc gets banned quickly, so it's a much more leveled plainfield.
The first piece of advice specific to these two is don't expect to get a drop just because you claimed and killed the NM, many people will go as high as 0 drops in 40 kills before getting one.
I was recently playing around with BST37/DNC and decided to get xp and seals from Castle Oztroja with the possible (but improbably) bonus of getting the shinier R/EX drops (just to use on capped areas since I have better gear at 75 of course). BST has the added advantage of widescan (and provoke from /DNC) and if you see a given NM pop enough time you get a bit quicker at getting to it and claiming. Anyways, here is an example of typical drops for Mee Deggi as I was getting seals and xp for BST (I ended up leveling up 5 times in this area alone, notice the changing XP):
and finally (after more of the same,
So if you have a job of the right level, consider putting your solo XP camp near a NM instead of just feeling like you wasted your time unless you get a rare drop.
Eventually you will stop playing this game, but while you still play you might as well keep it as enjoyable as possible. Plenty of things ingame have no real point but might still be nice to do...
Mar. 11th, 2008 | 06:22 am
|FFXI March 11 update for Monks + EASIEST Solo BCNM battles any Monk can do|
|I haven't posted in 2 months mostly because I play very little nowadays. Still, there's been an update so I'll make a quickly-put-together post.|
Summary and implications of the update: The few hours during maintenance are always full of speculation, because we can all read the update notes but it's not clear what impact they will actually have, and people's imagination can go wild and cry foul at things that are just speculations, while others start calling "huge nerf" this or "broken and overpowered" that without cause. As usual it's much better to just wait a few hours and actually at least try it in game first before making a lot of assumptions.
Having said that, here is a summary of the main changes for monk and job balances I more or less tested out so far:
Also it's not a huge deal for a few reasons: DRK can still do 2hr+souleater+krakenclub or some other multi-hit weapon since those don't rely on stacked source of haste. It only affects special situations like Kirin or Bahamut2 fights where DRKs rely on Bard's 2hr. Unless you have Bards using their 2hr and stack everything else on top of that, you won't see any difference (so even people with relic scythe will still get the most out of everything in normal non-brd2hr mode).
For LSs, it means that DRKs will go back to valuing multihit weapons like kclub or mercurial things more than the very cheap runechopper, although they would still do fairly well with that too (half as good as pre-update unless they use kclub but that means what, people will need 45-60sec to kill Kirin instead of 30sec?)
Now, I am not a DRK or WAR or SAM main so I just briefly covered what I think based on the little we know so far, mainly to address the job balance question. I am sure people can get a better feel for the actual implications in a bit more time and get a better idea than what I can say on day1...
A few other minor things in the rest of the update: new equipment doesn't seem too interesting, two pieces from campaign points that are finally rare ex, if you wear both they give enhance counter but I have a bad feeling that it's something very weak (say counter+3 or something) because the corresponding PLD gear says "enhances all elemental resist" and only gives +5 to all elements which is pretty useless:
DEF:13 Accuracy+4 Enmity-3 "Store TP"+3 Set: Enhances "Counter" effect
DEF:22 Accuracy+4 Enmity-4 "Store TP"+2 Set: Enhances "Counter" effect
Then there's something that could be cool for very rare situations against shock spikes or enthunder:
DEF:7 HP-1% Ranged Accuracy+4 Evasion+4 Lightning damage: TP+10
a single new crafted H2H (gnoles sainti) that's still much worse than destroyers (maybe it's ok for 60cap areas..)
and an interesting club that has drain effect and very good stats but seems like it would be hard to get.
everything else is even more useless from what I can see.
There's a lottery item which could be interesting if it gives otherwise unobtainable items instead of something stupid like currency. NPC fellow changes might be good, should be nice to test out but I didn't get around that (especially if you can now give them aspir samba or at least cure-waltz them).
New MNK/SCH looking good: a few quick tests:
So as I mentioned above, the new changes have made /SCH a lot more interesting for monk, still situational but still great to have the option. Specifically as you might remember you could use light arts and dark arts to get the respective magic skills boosted to be on par with lvl75 mages, but there were no interesting spells to use them on aside from say stone2 (which would do less damage than the punches you could throw in the same time interval).
Well that changed with the addition of addendum JAs, the white ones are ok, just all the -na you would get from whm, not a big deal since those wouldn't get resisted anyways. Still no enfeebling or enhancing unfortunately (phalanx and stoneskin with that skill level would have been great), but at least you get 2 black magic spells that are still very useful: SLEEP and DISPEL, with the comfort that they won't be resisted every time a monk casts them because of the high magic skill from the dark arts job ability.
The same is true of Aspir and Drain (although you already had those). On top of that, you can basically get ~150MP back from the new (and safer) convert JA of scholars before you have time to spend that same MP, so you basically have infinite MP even if you are not fighting anything that could be aspir-ed and without having to use staff and spirittaker.
Here are some examples: Drain for 243HP. And then sublimation JA for 154MP. Also note that melee damage doesn't necessarily suffer from using this subjob on easy monsters (see the 1242 dragon kick without any food):
And here's an example of Sleep followed by Aspir for 103 MP and Dispel (sorry for the incredibly ugly turban, I didn't have much time and needed a quick MP gear), and another example of sleep showing the magic skill level given by dark arts (246 instead of the normal 101):
Anyways, I might try to find something interesting to demonstrate what you could use MNK/SCH for in the near future.
Small update: One thing I also tested briefly is vampiric claws added effect drain with dark arts, which went up from 5 normal and 15 with rdm sub to 40 which starts to be a bit more significant, especially if you needed to use vampiric claws anyways for something like slimes. I didn't test if the activation rate changed although it seemed the same as when I previously tested (1) so about 20% of attack rounds (or ~1 in 10 punches).
Another thing of note is that now mnk75/sch37 has 2 stratagem charges and they recharge based on the level of the main job instead of the level of the subjob, so every 1 min.
Whether this was intended or not, it doesn't have a big impact on mnk/sch, just because you already have more MP than you can spend with just spells from sub (so parsimony stratagem is not all that useful), and I generally just keep dark arts with addendum black on all the times so I only have to use it up once when I change zone.
On the other hand I guess alacrity (stratagem that makes the next cast time half) could be useful to avoid interruptions on an important spell like sleep.
EASIEST Solo BCNM battles any Monk can do:
In my previous post I showed an example of what you can solo with sharp reactions, skill, a lot of strategy and great gear (e.g., the 6 scorpion BCNM operation desert storm as MNK/DNC).
That's interesting to see but not as practically useful to everyone because it is admittedly a very difficult thing for people to try and imitate or put to practical use in their game.
So in this post I thought I would add a quickly-put-together video showing two very easy BCNM-type battles that ANY monk can do easily without needing good gear, skills or experience.
The first one is "Uninvited Guest", an uncapped BC-like quest rematch of a CoP battle that can be done with as many as 18 people and scales up accordingly. this one is very easy to solo (you need to farm 1 giant scale first but that's soloable too, or just wait by the jump point for people passing through it). It's very easy and can be done with any subjob at 75, and drops useful things like cloud evokers (used as a BCNM orb to fight ouryu and then bahamut2 with an alliance). You can redo it once a week and it gives random rewards including xp scrolls you can use on any job or various random items including things like adaman ores or assault breastplate.
The second fight I show, the 50cap ENM "Pulling the Plug", is more for completeness (since it has been shown in videos many times already by various people) and to test and show that it is doable even with the worst possible gear (although of course it's even easier with better gear). It's an old recording of mine and I was also trying a few other things at the same time (like whether enthunder and shock spikes from charge items were worth using in these types of fights). It can be redone after 5 days. If you die you don't lose any XP so there is nothing to lose in trying (aside for food/items you would use), and if you win you always get 3000XP and a chance at a rare ring (toreador, acc+7).
To try and put myself in the shoes of a new player with less gear and no merits, I tried to use the cheapest possible gear I had around or worse: my body was an aikido gi (only stat a basically useless VIT+4), TMHooks (free from signet points), purple belt (free from quest and people could even have a brown one by this level), and legs/hands that have just low defense and no extra stats on them. Anyways you get the picture (I think I had rajas on though as the only exception of good gear but not enough to make a difference). At first I tried to see if I could do it also without using any anima (again just as another test) but that was pushing it, so I actually ended up trying to use it anyways in the last 10seconds of the fight and won with very little HP left, so I definitely recommend people not do that (I was just trying to test/prove a point, no need to make your life harder on purpose).
Anyways, here is the video:
Jan. 1st, 2008 | 03:36 am
|MNK75/DNC37 soloing KS30 BCNM Operation Desert Swarm (ODS)|
This entry will be mostly about /DNC subjob for monk again, just because it's new and something I've been playing around with a bit more recently.
When to use MNK/DNC:
Dancer37 is a very nice subjob but other subjobs can still be more useful depending on the situation. For example you can solo some VT/IT very well with it, but for others /NIN can still be better.
A good rule of thumb is looking at how fast you take damage with each hit/WS, if you take less than 200 damage every 3 seconds, especially in the form of multiple smaller attacks and moves that would go through shadows (e.g., imps, shock spikes on sea sharks, multiple easier monster, fleas etc), then you might be better off with /DNC.
If instead you are fighting something that hits hard but infrequently, and with very strong moves that can be absorbed by shadows (for example the sea flowers Euvhi), then you'll do better as MNK/NIN.
And of course all the other subjobs are still very useful, MNK/WAR for max damage especially in PTs (where you could get a better drain effect from a DNC main), etc.
Soloing the 6 scorpion NMs in KS30 BCNM Operation Desert Swarm:
I've been thinking of soloing some KS BCNMs for a few months, both to get rid of unused seals that were taking space (you get a lot when soloing), to uncap my xp a bit for a worthwhile cause, and as a chance to find a situation where MNK/DNC might be useful. But I've been kinda busy until a few days ago, when I finally found some time to plan my strategy and actually try it out.
So here is a video I made of me soloing and winning that BCNM:
For one thing, they have their own main enhancing magic skill, so the damage reduction from Phalanx and stoneskin is much greater than you could ever get with MNK (more than double). And that's not counting Protect4 and Shell3 (for the magic damage from monster WS moves like earth pounder), Cure4s and other JAs like Sentinel and Invincible. To top it off, PLD as many other jobs can wear some very useful enchantment items that monk can't wear, so they can get a free and decently strong 100% Ice Spikes effect that will paralyze all the attacking scorpions a lot (note MNK can wear rasetsu pants but it's a very low activation rate and strength in comparison and you have to keep them on and give up on byakko's haidate which would be a big sacrifice). The PLD with the two relics was able to use all those things to his/her own advantage.
On a side note after soloing this KS I have an idea of what I would like for a new ability for monk, something like an AOE petrify for example would be quite nice (after all BLM can solo this just thanks to his repeated area of effect sleepga and thundaga3)...
I also started looking at the data I collected during this try and plotting some values, here are some defensive stats, you can see I recovered over 10,000 HP (10K HP!) with TP dances alone.
I might add more analysis here in this same post probably in the next ~week, so keep checking this post if you are interested in that.
Anyways, since all that doesn't apply to MNK, I had to use a fairly different strategy and rely on some of MNK's strong points, evasion, counter, guard, high TP gain, and awesome well rounded gear like Kirin Osode.
Also I didn't have anything to imitate or follow to come up with my own strategy, and there's probably a few things I might do a bit differently now based on the experience and data I collected, but part of the fun is trying to be first in coming up with and trying new strategies and new challenges.
The scorpions become stronger and stronger as you kill more. Even their TP moves and attacks do much more damage.
The two TP moves they do have a chance of either binding them for a few seconds or making them stop attacking for a few seconds.
Part of the strategy I came up with was in giving them TP at different rates (sometimes fast and other times slow, to balance the large 6xWS damage I would suffer and the short bind/noDMG pauses I could take advantage of) and trying to separate the scorpions, among many other details like other gear swaps, JAs etc.
People that do it with a normal setup of 6 lvl75 people or use -aga spells try to kill them at the same time have it easier in this respect, because they get kill to them basically in parallel and thus only fight the normal initial strength scorpions. Of course soloing as MNK I had to do it the harder way.
The fight was not exactly smooth, it's NOT an easy solo BCNM (try it for yourself, especially if you're a big fan of just wearing just ATK gear, you will see how far that gets you hehe) unlike easier things like soloing ENM50 for a 0.01% chance at a toreador ring etc.
In fact in that winning BC run I died and recovered twice, you can see where at the exploding transitions, I cut them out to keep the video a bit shorter (especially since each time the scorpions recover to full HP of course).
The final drops were really bad, 24k Gil, and none of the good drops (just H.Q.Scorp.Shell, Raxa, etc, and I already had in moghouse an Anubis Knife, all the R/EX weapons etc so those just didn't show in the drops).
But it was a very fun and challenging fight, I recommend every monk to try it for fun (you can get the good drops easily just by soloing NMs like Serket anyways, but that's not really any challenge, aside from getting the claim).
A little more discussion (and video) on leveling subjobs with /BST (especially DNC/BST)
I retired DNC as soon as I turned 37. I really like it as sub to MNK, but as main there are a lot of things I don't like about DNC, such as the extremely low melee damage potential.
But I did record a few videos back then of me soloing as DNC/BST and I decided I should show one here to give people a better idea of how nice, relaxing and fast it can be to get xp with DNC/BST, even at 36-37.
Granted, the higher the level the slower the XP tends to become, just because DNC becomes more well defined as a low damage class (more like a BRD) while monsters' HP becomes higher and higher.
Still, you can get at least 5-7k xp/hr soloing xp chains of toughs with /BST and it can be very fun and relaxing (and you can log off or pick it back up instantly anytime).
At this level already DNC does so little damage that your pet will now basically tank all the times, and your main goal is to just get TP and use it to enfeeble the monster more and more so that your pet can kill it faster (often you will charm just DC or at most EM since /BST is just a sub, and remember that there is an evasion and accuracy penalty for each level difference between two monsters, so those eva down and def down really help your pet do more damage).
Here is the video:
Another small rant on how PLing is sad and is replacing player skill in FFXI:
So I mentioned how I was disappointed to see how many people use lvl 75 "mules" to PL themselves when soloing instead of using good strategy and skill. As DNC I soloed all the way to 37. As SCH it's a bit more of a pain even with /BST so I actually took the risk and accepted a few random PT invites, so I got to see how bad PLing can be even in PTs...
Now notice the fact that we had TWO level 75 WHMs to PL this PT (I am not sure who exactly set this up but these WHMs seemed to be normal players just helping someone they knew in the party rather than someone dualboxing).
And yet the PT was so bad (low overall damage and a bad level spread). With TWO PLers we were making less than 5k/hr...
I can make much more than that soloing, without having two WHMs 50 levels above me babysit us o.O.
Just scroll up and compare my screenshot of my SOLO xp chain#4 of 420xp with this one with the TWO WHMs PL and just 270xp (notice I even had an xp ring active in this PT). And as I mentioned I was clocking the total xp/hr too and it never went over 5k even after we changed camp...
And of course all these PLed PTs mean that more and more people will keep leveling up without any clue of what it takes to make a good PT or play well. Sometimes it's good for people in the long run to actually die and learn from their mistakes.
Other misc stuff:
A few other things I found interesting:
Pixies are monsters that actually HELP players! It's kind of cool, they basically do almost the opposite of undeads, they sense people near them with low HP, and cast cures on them!
Also on another note, I finally changed my Homepoint away from AlZabi back to Bastok.
I had left it in Alzabi for so long because it was cool to have it in a place that was no longer a choice, but now there are NPCs that teleport you to Whitegate from any of the 3 cities for just 300gil, and that's much more convenient than the other way around using an imperial silver coin each time (also for using outposts).
I also started to move back all my mules to their own towns since I can access their storage and local Auction Houses there, and then just pay 300g to go to Whitegate again and an extra silver coin if I need them in Jeuno (e.g., for lower tax etc). It might take me a while because while they all have mog lockers some don't have the NPC warper quest done.
I also recently helped someone I knew who had quit and restarted FFXI with their cap55 quest, and soloing those 3 NMs was a bit nostalgic and fun, it's kinda clear they made those monsters to show off and magnify in the eyes of the lower capped players how strong a level 75 can be, making your damage on them so high and their spells and attacks on you so low:
As a final note, someone I knew ingame on my server (Bardok) got their account hacked and stolen recently, from what I understand from that activeX hack-keylogger on somepage, which kinda sucks. It's easy to say people should be more careful with their security settings but you can't expect everyone to be computer savy all the times. Anyways that's another reason why it's so bad when people help RMTs or buy characters or gil or items from them, because if nobody ever bought them, dishonest people wouldn't have any incentive to do things like trying to hack into other people's accounts to try to steal them.
WE're all going to stop plaing eventually, and there are already a lot of things in the game that I've not been interested in for a loong time, but hopefully most of us can quit on a nice note and on their own terms.
Anyways Bardok, sorry to hear that, take care man.
Oh and Happy new Year to everybody.
Dec. 6th, 2007 | 01:55 pm
|Monk/Dancer: Better than /NIN for soloing VT o.O|
|I've been kinda busy recently, but I still managed to level my DNC subjob completely and test it a bit as MNK/DNC .|
I recorded a video of a few solo xp chains and I have to say it works out better than MNK/NIN for many situations.
This was in part thanks to the fact that now BST is such a great subjob (now that your pet doesn't take xp away from you, you can choose to keep the same pet for hours if needed, or sacrifice it to spare you some tanking when you see a better choice). As usual, faster solo xp all the way to 37 and much better than risking bad frustrating PTs that take long to form and warm up and compete for the same 2-3 camps (people are not as creative as they could be when they make PTs).
So today's entry will be about
-testing MNK/DNC in practice in a hard solo xp situation (with a video) and also
-giving some final tips on how to level DNC to 37.
So here is the video of me soloing as MNK/DNC, chaining VT imps. I also picked imps because they are supposedly bad for DNC since their abrasive tartara move prevents you from using JAs or dances. As it turns out, it's not a huge problem, as long as you keep your HP up until they do it, you will have enough HP to finish the fight even without dances, and can recover a few seconds after winning when it wears off.
So here is the video I made. I used the soundtrack from Bleach in case you are wondering about it (I tried to put it together quickly to make it more useful so it's not very polished).
The total xp I got was 1468 without any xp enhancements (aside from signet) in 8 min of fighting as MNK/DNC (so still about 11-12k/hr but more safely than with /nin and without the need for resting).
Here I got chain3 but I would have easily gotten chain4-5 if I hadn't run out of nearby enemies.
I omitted the first fight to make it shorter and just show the ones that chained after it, but it was an extra 322xp.
Conclusion: while abrasive tartara can be a little risky, i would say /DNC is actually safer and better than /NIN for solo xp situations like these imps, or monsters that have annoying moves that cause a lot of damage even through shadows, like Phuabos (the blue sharks/mantas in sea) which have shock spikes that do ~35 damage for every punch you throw.
DNC/BST soloing tips to 37:
The /BST sub is especially needed for DNC because DNC is incredibly weak in terms of damage. For example, this is the difference between one of my critical hits (25dmg) compared to a normal hit from a DC pet I charmed (55dmg):
That's with the best dagger in the game for that level, and H2H actually does worse and attacks more slowly for that job (as opposed to how awesome mnk is with H2H).
Anyways, to help people out who might still be leveling it, here is an approximate list of camps I soloed in to get it to 35 and some more screenshots. I chose camps that were if possible just 1 outpost warp away (at 10 you can go start using them, I think dunes is lvl 15). I think I did ome buburimu, maze of shakrami and dunes up to 19, also some korroloka tunnel up to something like 22ish, then some qufim island worms and pugils, and finally I just climbed up qufim tower (delkfutt) which was a great camp (the mid-levels lasted me until lvl 34, with plenty of goblins and gigas all for myself and plenty of bats at the right levels to use as pets). And with/bst sub I could handle massive links (4+ monsters) and make difficult pulls safely.
I also got a little xp around other locations while doing things like chocobo digging (I might as well make use of my capped digging skill)
After that I used lufaise meadows and misareaux, again just 1 outpost warp away from my moghouse and the auction house.
Here's a few screenshots, with xp ring,
I also used a few xp scrolls and got some xp from besieged (I got full points even at level 32):
That's it for this entry, I did a few other things like getting some maps, quests and missions done but they are nothing too special, I did find a use for those flee-charges-during-noncombat shoes though, they have some use in the past since you can't use chocobos and there is a lot of walking involved until you unlock all the teleport maws that connect to the present areas.
Nov. 26th, 2007 | 05:36 pm
|Dancer and Scholar as Monk Subjobs + New Missions and Quests Rewards|
|I am writing this entry a bit in a hurry to get it ready while it's still more useful to people. I played around a bit with dancer and scholar in the couple of days since they have been added, and I have a decent idea of how they will play as subjobs to monk. I also added some tips on leveling them up and discuss briefly quests missions and rewards from them. |
Updated from Nov. 25: I played a bit more with dancer and soloed it very quickly to lvl 25 (getting 300-480xp per kill it doesn't take long to level up).
There are a few other very nice abilities for subjob use.
Quickstep every 15 seconds reduces the enemy's evasion and stacks up to level 5 (usually I only got to stick 3 before they died). It works great with BST subjob for soloing, I basically charm a strong DC/EM pet, and then chain through Ts by lowering their evasion repeatedly until my pet can hit almost every time, using the provoke flourish move when my pet is low on HP (I have about +27 evasion in gear at level 25, plus an extra evasion bonus trait and capped parrying, so I take damage better than my pet).
The Aspir Samba of course is useless for soloing as mnk/dnc since you have no spells.
Spectral Jig is actually quite nice to have. It is a simultaneous sneak and invisible, but they are fairly short, usually they wear after just 30 seconds, but it's ready to be recast by then and it's free (no TP or MP cost), so it's still very nice to have. You can't recast it while it's active however just as for sneak, so you have to cancel it (at least the sneak part) before recasting and you can be detected at that point (differently from tonko which has a long fixed timer and can be recast right in front of an enemy without getting detected).
The Divine Waltz is a curaga version of the Curing Waltz (works on the entire party for 40TP instead of 20TP on 1 target), and cures for basically the same amount. A party of 6 MNK/DNC swapping hate and spamming this curaga for 600HP every 15-20 seconds could be nice (swapping hate in order would be important to get the most out of this).
Leveling up tips:
I already have an entry on how to level up subjobs solo quickly (here). But since these jobs play a bit different and since a few things changed in the game mechanics since then, I will add a few tips here.
I recommend mostly atk food, lower level ones give a bit extra atk but even the usual mitkabobs will work.
For level 1-10, I recommend using /PUP, to get free dia, flash, range pulls, erase, extra melee damage (and enthunder), and after level 6 unlimited cures as well. Remember to dismiss and reactivate your pet every couple of levels so its stats and spells get updated.
After a while the level difference with the PUP pet will become a bit more noticeable. At this point I found that switching to /BST subjob was great. Since a few updates ago having a bst pet no longer hurts your xp, so I charmed DC/EM pets and used them for extra damage and pulls.
With dancer especially at level 15+ you can use 20tp (so every 2 swings) to cure about 1/3rd of your total HP, so staying alive is very easy, but doing damage faster is a bit more of the problem, but the pets take care of that and keep attacking while you dance. When a pet becomes uncharmed it's fairly easy for dancer to stay alive until it's recharmed, even while fighting a tough enemy at the same time (just spam waltz and charm).
With that setup I got a lot of chain#4s on Toughs and even some VTs, which give a lot of xp, both without xp rings:
and with them:
Learn how to play, people!!: One thing I noticed a lot leveling up the new jobs is that a lot of people carry around a level 75 zombie mage (or a really bored and overly subservient person) to help them level up.
The thing is, there is really no need for that if you know how to play! You can get the same xp/hr just by yourself with just a little skill.
It's kind of a waste of people's time if it's a real person, and don't give me that "we are having fun together and talking", because you could both be leveling up new jobs.
You don't get xp much faster than chain #5 solo, and while you could try to take on ITs with someone spamming high-level cures on you from outside, it would take you too long to kill it to be an efficient use of your time.
I guess part of what I find concerning about this is that people level up without really learning how to play or seeing what works and what doesn't and adjust accordingly.
At that point, you might as well do the trick of not xping at all and just going AFK as level 1 in an xp area, get your friends or servants to make a 5 person 75 melee-burn with your level 1 in it, and check back in 4 days when your character got from 1 to 75 by leeching all the XP., like some people have done...
Quests and missions + Rewards:
The missions and rewards so far are a bit disappointing. I mean they are really cool, and the new areas in the past look much better, but there is basically no reward for them. You can get some shoes that have 15 charges of a special variation of improved movement speed, but that is kinda useless because you basically can't use it in fights (it gets canceled if you get hit or attacked or you attack anything). So basically they are useful maybe to walk around town a little faster... and with all the teleports and ways to travel (chocobos, outposts, spells etc) I don't see much of a use for it. All the other rewards are not anything special and not really wearable by monk, except the cobra commando set which adds a minimal amount of INT, MND and mp (could be worth wearing for looks at best).
There are two quests that give a deathstone and an angelstone respectively, which is useful for the new gobbiebag quests, but even those are already becoming reasonably priced again. The gobiebag quests are a nice increase, but I think people get confused and forget that each only adds 5 spaces, not 10, so you get 10 spaces total from both.
This version update will give me something to do for a little bit, and I really like that pretty much everything is soloable and doable on your own schedule (so I don't have to rush through everything right away to avoid missing the boat), but it would have been nice to have some actual useful reward from all this.